In November of 2021 I wrote about Thankfulness and 12 Hard-earned Truths About Pie Crust. However, as Paul McCartney said, “But if this ever changin’ world in which we live in, makes you give in and cry, say live and let pie.”
OK, maybe it was live and let die, but my take is kinder and explains why I must eat my words when it comes to pie crust.
It’s because of my daughter. She loves following people who cook, except her own mother, and is always raving about GrossyPelosi, or Clair Saffitz of New York Times fame, whose pie crust recipe is in the King Arthur Flour blog.
Claire is very highly educated, studied in France, and knows her stuff, which would be intimidating if I was younger. But now that I’m older and have spent many years baking, I think it’s safe to say that I know some things. But I’m always willing to learn more.
Claire was smart to call her most recent pie crust technique her most successful to date, instead of claiming her technique is the best. She knows what all bakers know and that is techniques frequently change and there will always be someone out there who’ll discover something earth-shattering that sends everyone into raptures.
So, since my daughter and King Arthur Flour were in agreement that this pie crust was fabulous, I figured I’d see what Claire had to say. What I learned is that her technique gave my crust more layers, which is what I’ve been trying to do for years! So, Claire, you’ve earned my respect, even if I am jealous of my daughter’s devotion to you. The good news is Milena can always call me and ask me to give her a tip or two, and that’s where I gotcha!
I am backtracking on two things in my 2021 blog, Thankfulness and 12 Hard Learned Truths about Pie Crust. I said I always use half butter and half butter-flavored Crisco (because my mom always used Crisco). I am changing my tune and phasing out Crisco, and use of the word always.
For my last pie crust I used 3/4 cup of butter and 1/4 cup Butter Flavor Crisco. It turned out great. I am going for all butter next time.
Where Claire and I part ways is she likes to use a bench knife/pastry scraper for the whole thing and I just don’t want to spend that much time. Maybe it would make the crust flakier because you would end up with some larger pieces of butter mixed with smaller ones, but I’m OK with my food processor doing that work and giving me uniform smaller pieces. Someday when I have loads of extra time, I might try it, but not right now.
Once the dry and wet ingredients were mixed together in the food processor, I did take her advice and dump it on the counter and mush it all together. Then, like she said, I rolled it out in a rectangle, cut it in half, layered one piece on top of the other and repeated that process. And you know what? The crust was actually much easier to work with when I did that. So, not only was my crust flakier, but two of my preconceived notions were wrong. I thought the more you messed with dough, the worse it turned out. I also always thought butter was harder to work, but those were both wrong. I was brainwashed by my mom’s love affair with Crisco.
I looked up whether or not Crisco is good for you. It’s approved by the FDA, so it’s safe to consume, but certainly not on a daily basis. I won’t be using it in my pie crusts and never used it for anything else. Here’s a did you know about Crisco for you that I found on a blog by Meghan Telpner:
“Crisco, first used to make candles, was invented in pre-civil war days by candle maker William Proctor and soap maker James Gamble (get it — Proctor and Gamble?). The meat industry (bullies then as they are today) controlled the prices of lard and tallow which were necessary to make soap and candles.”
Those are her words, not mine, just FYI. So, I now feel that butter is better. But I still stand behind my my mom’s pie crust recipe. I’m simply using butter now instead of Crisco. (Sorry Ma! I can just hear her gasping.)
Here is my most successful pie crust recipe…to date! (Thanks Claire and King Arthur Flour for your tip.) If my daughter ever calls you, please don’t answer, you’ll phase me out completely!
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Fran’s Flakier Pie Crust
Mix together the flour, sugar, and salt in a food processor. Cut the butter into 1/2 inch pieces and process until the flour looks like small pebbles.
Add the cold milk, or cold whipping cream and water and process until it just comes together. Next dump the dough onto the counter. Combine it and roll it into a long flat rectangle. Cut the rectangle in half and place one half on top of the other. Roll it out again and repeat the process. Cut the dough into three or four parts, wrap them with plastic wrap, flatten them into discs, chill them, then roll them into pie crust or freeze them for later.
Roll out the dough, lay it in the pie pan and fill it with your favorite filling. Place six to 8 very small pieces of butter over the top of the filling. Place the top crust on and poke holes in it with a fork. Or cut it in strips and criss cross it on the top of the pie. Brush it lightly with whipping cream. Place the pie crust shield on. Bake pie for 425 for 15 minutes, then lower the heat to 350. Bake until golden brown.







11 Comments
Cindy Beckler
February 15, 2024 at 3:13 pmHi Fran,
I am also a Crisco to 1/2 Crisco 1/2 butter and now all butter convert. Its taken about 40 years.
My question is the quantity of liquid in your recipe: 1 cup milk to 2 1/2 cups flour?
I referenced the Claire Saffitz recipe and she also calls for 1 cup liquid (water) but to 3 3/4 cup flour.
Thank you,
Cindy
lafriday
January 22, 2024 at 10:59 pmWell, if I liked pie, I know I’d love the all-butter crust. I stopped using Crisco years ago, but the history lesson was truly “illuminating.” <3
Fran Tunno
January 27, 2024 at 2:58 pmThank you Linda! I think you are the only person I’ve ever heard utter the words, “If I liked pie.” Wow! Pie is my very favorite dessert, I can never get enough of it.
Brian Ellis
January 21, 2024 at 7:05 pmIt looks very tasty Fran, really close to what my mom made. Mom also worked it with her fingers, and of course swore by Crisco. Now if only I could get Alex to try it out. But maybe I’ll just have to do it myself.
Fran Tunno
January 27, 2024 at 2:56 pmWhen I come back to LA, I would happily stop by and bake you guys one!
Bruce Barker
January 18, 2024 at 2:11 pm“All butter” is ALWAYS the right call. 🙂
Fran Tunno
January 19, 2024 at 9:54 amI must say I totally agree. My mom’s spirit will just have to deal with it!
Ruby-Ann Lee
January 18, 2024 at 10:49 amCan’t wait to try out this recipe, thanks Fran!
Fran Tunno
January 18, 2024 at 11:17 amThank YOU Ruby-Ann for reading and taking the time to write! Let me know how it goes!
Nicol Z
January 18, 2024 at 12:18 amAnd now I want a slice of late night pie!
Fran Tunno
January 18, 2024 at 9:34 amI did that a few nights ago…it was good and I did not feel guilty at all because I earned it!